Springfield Auction

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Mostly dirt bikes
Many street dual purpose bikes as well.
Nice clean machines but no paper. Which kills useful value to me.
But I am watching jap enduros with lights .350 and under .
A couple of 305’s . A 650 BSA and a couple of triumph twins .

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Just a couple of weeks away!
The Jack Weaver Collection!
Saturday, September 28th in Springfield, MA

The exact address of this auction will be posted seven days before the sale on 9/21/24. Pre-bidding will also open on that day. Descriptions had been updated to include whether the engines kick over and many other details. The sale has been expanded by approximately 30 more lots of parts and memorabilia.

Get ready to witness the auctioning of
110 motorcycles plus memorabilia, all offered at
No Reserve. Online or in person!
This live auction features online bidding options through HiBid, ensuring enthusiasts from all over can participate.
To register to bid online or to look at all the lots before you arrive at the auction location
CLICK HERE
From beautifully restored classics to thrilling projects, this collection spans dirt bikes, race bikes, and street bikes, with a special focus on highly collectible competition models.
Jack Weaver, the well-known, longtime modern/vintage MX racer from New England, has finally decided to retire. He is moving south, and his amazing collection is too large to move! 40+ years of collecting to be sold at No Reserve, on 9/28/24!


Join us on Saturday, September 28th
in Springfield, MA
for a day filled with two-wheeled wonders waiting to find new homes and passionate owners.

J Wood and Company – Motorcycle and Estate Auctions

 

[motogrady]

Jeez.  Just what I need to see.  
This guy was in it when it got hot.

https://jwoodandcompany.com/

Click on the Red engine Honda and it takes you the items for auction.  

He was into Bultaco, Pentons and Yamahas apparently.

The bulk of these none of us could even start.  
Let alone ride.

Of interest……..

Lot 8.  A yankee. The bike Dick Mann designed and had manufactured.



Lot 7.   A HD Baja 100.  Really rare one. This appears to be the Enduro.  The Motocrosser was also a 100.
Yes, they were there back then.

 

Lot 16.   The 79 Cr is kind of mythical. They were so trick,
they even painted the motors red.  Some say these were the pinnacle of the works factory Honda motocrosser.
They almost lost a factory bike at a National when a privateer claimed one.  I don’t think the guy got it, the other factories banded together and claimed it also.
When a bike was claimed back then, which was very very rare, they tossed a coin to see who would get it.  
I think Yamaha got it and gave it back to the Honda team,
maybe not now that I think about it. The kid might have won it.  
Either way, it was rumored those factory Hondas were worth like 1/2 a million a piece.  That’s how crazy Honda had gotten with it all.
Whatever, after that deal all the factories pulled back on
the custom, unobtanium, cost is no issue way, we just wanna win practice.

Ya, the 79 Honda Cr, even to this day, even the production models like this one, some believe  were the best ever built.

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Yep, all that and much much more.

[motogrady]

Thanks for putting that one up Keith.

[hacksaw]

I didn’t know about yankee- Dick Mann
Thank you for the history lesson .

I guess I will watch on line. I was going to go to Springfield but my daughter has an away scrimmage so I will follow on line.
They sure no how yo scalp bidders though .
Ma sales  tax 6+%
15% premium on winning on line bids . 12 if not credit card . It’s less in person . But there is also a charge for some letter of credit thing.
So a 1000$ win can cost additional 200+ $.
It can had up. Plus 500$ to get it registered thru a broker dealing with Montana registrations, it can add up to not being a good value. It is interesting i guess.  Have to remember to just bid 700$ less than I would normally want to pay!
Most of these will go for larger coin than I will pay.

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https://cdn.hibid.com/img.axd?id=8006680000&wid=&rwl=false&p=&ext=&w=1600&h=1200&t=&lp=&c=true&wt=false&checksum=JdqDFF9AJgpTdryHWQ%2b2MPQKeaS21hAL           

I like!

[motogrady]

Ya that’s a good looking bike for sure.  
And the Kawasaki’s always ran strong.  

[motogrady]

Lot 26.  
The Spanish Ossa Stilleto.
That ‘71, was maybe the lightest, and
most powerful hp wise bike that year.
But they were fragile.
I’ve only seen 2 of them at the races, and yes they were beasts.  

But both times, they broke down.

[hacksaw]

Yes Kawasakis were quick. Built cheap compared with Honda. But yes, quick!

[motogrady]

Tid bit for the HD guys.

Lot 49.

The 1978 Harley motocrosser.
This was right before AMF almost lost the whole company to bankruptcy.

After getting into all kinds of stuff, golf carts, bowling balls,
motorcycles, they became overextended and were suffering quality in everything they produced.

And yes, they were trying to jump on the dirt bike craze.
The Baha was early 70s.
They always had the Sprint.  
And they decided to go motocross racing.
Expand, diversify.
Kinda like Triumph and Ducati are doing now.
It would not be the last time, but that’s getting ahead of ourselves.

They built I think 20 prototypes, 250s,
hired 4 or 5 top riders, put Harley Racing on a few box vans, hired a few mechanics, and hit the MX Nationals.
I think it was 1975 or 76.  
They were putting forks on the rear, crazy travel front ends, real off the wall stuff.

But they did ok.  
I don’t think the ever won a National, but they had good riders and placed pretty good a few times.
I thought it was cool as all get out.

Well, they ordered 1,000 production models from Italy.
I mean, like the Sprints, and Baja’s they were really Aermacchi’s.

By the time they were built, and shipped over here,
the Japanese were playing with water cooling, with even crazier suspension, making the Harley 250 kind of obsolete  
before they even hit the local tracks.

I mean, they weren’t bad.  A good local racer
could do well on one.
But there wasn’t anything earth shattering about them.

Plus, they were Harley.  
And that discrimination thing that exists to this day was there. 2 tribes from different places.

So, they didn’t sell.
Not a lot of them anyway.

Many ended up as trail bikes.
A lot just rusted away behind the garage.

And get this, this is what makes lot 49 valuable.

Harley decided, since things were so bad financially,
to just crush 500 of the 1,000 bikes they had made.
500 brand new bikes destroyed just to take the tax write off.  Then they disbanded the racing team. They called the whole thing a loss.

So, all of a sudden, with 500 gone, maybe half of what sold trashed, there were maybe 250 Harley motocrossers
left.  

Which became a bit of off the wall folklore from the mid 70s.  The golden era for a lot of the baby boomers.

I mean, stand next to one when you see one in a museum.
There is a good chance you’ll her a guy say to his wife or buddy, “Man, I remember those.”
Not because they were great bikes.
Or they were another thing that almost put Harley out of business.

They represent another time, good times,
which many like to remember now and then.

That’s why they are valuable.

[hacksaw]

I don’t know if they are that valuable in a general sense. I had several. A couple that were used for flat track . I still have one I more or less abandoned at a friends place. Certainly specific models in top condition will go for high dollar . And there is that “I had one when I was a kid” thing . Be interesting to see

[hacksaw]

Besides bowling balls , AMF made Holiday Rambler Motor homes.
Gov regs were going to kill off anything not connected to big motor home specific big firms anyway .
Everything went , the amf tricycles , the Voit volleyball’s , everything . HD was actually holding its own but corporate raided it to support other divisions  

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As to the auction held today . Everything I bid on went for around 1500 or so . Couple over 2k
More than I could spend as I was buying a /2 from a dealer
If there was something I seriously wanted I coukd have got a fair deal not counting
Ma sales tax and buyers premium .
Allthough I don’t see the point in paying too much for 250 enduros no matter the sweet condition as new ones are relatively still cheap. Buying a pristine 1972 enduro and riding it up some mud an rock trail is a loser as well

[Fatfatboy]

I really wanted a Harley enduro when I was a kid. I only knew of a few in my area. A X90 owned by a friends mom who tooled around while camping and a couple 250 or 350 non- runners that were in sheds and not for sale. Irritated the crap out of me that they weren’t repairing them or selling them.


Can we see the /2?

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Can we see the /2

Eventually . I never took a pic of it .
It looks like your basic /2

[hacksaw]

my old one. that girl is 22yo now. lol
i let this one go and it was a mistake
costly.
but the one i am buying is a runner. not a show bike. and who know how much i will actually ride it. but if it gets me out a few times a summer for a ride around i be happy!
now i got to start saving for an indian chief!

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corbin