Pan America 1250

[oldironnow]

So...

Where we all standing on this?

[Allred]

oldironnow wrote

So...Where we all standing on this?

Hmmm.......water-cooled, hydraulic lifters, variable valve timing (I wonder if it is simple 2-stage VVT or constant CVVT) electronic ride height for the shorter folks, 9,500 red line, 150hp, 94ftlbs, and all for under $20k fully loaded. Sounds like HD is serious on this one.

But will it sell, do HD riders want an "Adventure Bike". and/or do "Adventure Bike" riders want a Harley?

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[Fatfatboy]

oldironnow wrote

So...

Where we all standing on this?

I see a snapping turtle head on that thing,,. It's not for me. Just way to tall and my sporty can do gravel if I want to ride it but I could see it being a benefit for some.

I Really hope it does well for them. I think the biggest hurdle will be the dealerships selling to folks that are not the typical Harley rider.  
There are Harley riders that also own GS's and KLR's so maybe they will give this thing a shot.

Now if it was a 350CC Sprinter or sort I might be a bit more interested.

[oldironnow]

Interesting ^

I get a strong automotive feel... a third gen Pontiac Le Mans to be exact.

I had some formative experience with one. Three on the tree, that would bind the shift linkage if one was too rushed about some portion of the process (I think it was going back to first. One had to hop out of the car at a stop, yank up the hood, and reach down and tug on the linkage to free it.)

I like your take on a smaller displacement. Maybe lop a cylinder off? Tighten up the width with a smaller rad?

Where are the crash bars?

I hope they did their engineering correctly on the stressed-member engine.  I remember the BMW breaking lugs off their engine.

[Mad4TheCrest]

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[oldironnow]

Friday is the afternoon tavern woman I fall in love with.

Back lit by the window glare off the cars lined up at the light

Unadorned. Cut-down. Simplicity of operation.

Boots on the rail. Forearms resting on the bar.

A hawk resting from the hunt?

A pintail resting from the journey?

Not on the schedule of the norms.

Riding a different sine of a different wave.

Your path. Your vector... I want to fall into it, run with it.



It must be Friday.

I fall in love with motorcycles on Friday.

The leftside looks disturbingly busy, and it's my favorite.

Undone. Incomplete. A work in progress. A mystery for the eyes to explore. Enticing the fingertips... "figure me out." Shapes to balance the Marketing-sculpted side of the right.



So it's the "1250," because BMW sells a 1250? HD wants to compete straight up with the best - I like that.

But in this instance, maybe should have gone with inches ...

"Pan America 76"

I kind of like that.

[Fatfatboy]

Mad4TheCrest wrote

That front/headlight area looks like a dustbuster's maw

Bwahahahahahahahahaha!!! That was great and spot on.

[Fatfatboy]

oldironnow wrote

"Pan America 76"

I kind of like that.

Yes inches sounds better.

That side shot looks like an Atari joystick on top.

[oldironnow]

Look at aaaaallll that space the cylinder heads take up...

Imagine these bikes with flathead engines.

Not possible in terms of emissions or power needs,
but couldn't the entire machine be much more off-road versatile?

[motogrady]

rumor has it they went with aluminum, chrome lined cylinders................

[oldironnow]

https://www.cycleworld.com/story/motorcycle-reviews/2021-harley-davidson-pan-america-1250-special-first-ride-review/