Triumph dirt bike rumors again

[motogrady]

Word floating around has Triumph either
leasing or purchasing one of the top motocross
training facilities in the USA.

Even tho there have press releases from Triumph, saying they are going to add dirt to their lineup, for a few years now, and Factory guys have been seen a a few Supercross Nationals, no picture of any prototype has surfaced.  

There have been reports from a few local MX racers in Britain saying yes, Factory Triumph has been showing up at small, obscure tracks now and then, testing frames and suspension using Suzuki motors as mules.  

Word has it the Triumph will be all Triumph.
And it’s been the motor that has been a challenge to create.
No KTM or Honda clone, all British.  

Apparently they are getting close, if rumors are true they have either leased or flat out bought this place.

https://themotocrosslife.com/motocross-schools/moto-x-compound-motocross-training-camp-culloden-georgia/

New blood……yeah baby.

[Fatfatboy]

Interesting that their interest is in purchasing or leasing American dirt. Is there no dirt in England?

You’ll have to forgive my ignorance because I’m so out of touch in the dirt world but is there really a need for Triumph to enter this arena?

Could they be setting their sites on electric dirt bikes?

[oldironnow]

Those are all good questions.

America is huge and England is far away... maybe they feel a need to have tight proximity between US racers, US dirt and their pile of equipment.

[motogrady]

From what I gather, Triumph feels it will put them on par with Kawasaki, Honda and Yamaha as far as having a complete line.

It’s been a monumental task, for sure.
But, they will be one of a select few that offer
a 250 and 450. They will have a motor and bike to run American Flat Track singles. GP motocross, American Supercross, ISDE, will all be possible.

Electric wise, I have heard nothing from them.

As far as why America, Supercross wise, that’s where it’s at.
That series sells a lot of bikes.
It is very hard for a Euro to break thru into that series and win.  Not saying it hasnt happened. It has.  But it’s kind of rare.  

They say Triumph has its sights on 4 World/National Championships.
US Supercross.  US Motocross. Europe GP Motocross. And the International Six Days Enduro Championship.

That’s what I hear anyway.

[m143]

Fatfatboy wrote

Interesting that their interest is in purchasing or leasing American dirt. Is there no dirt in England?

Could they be setting their sites on electric dirt bikes?

There is something to Triumph and electric bikes.
Triumph recently purchased OSET. OSET is a leader in electric off road bikes.
We have had two OSET's they are great machines.
And I really dig riding my new Scrambler on dirt roads.

[motogrady]

That’s really a good thing imo Walt.
The noise factor really hurts the dirt guys.  
These, heck, a dad could lay out a small track in his backyard, in a surburban housing development and nobody would realize it’s there.  

Go wild little Johnnie!

Ya, this has got to help the future of the dirt side of things.



Anyway, Triumph just put this press release out.
Looks like they ain’t playing…….

https://triumph-mediakits.com/en/news-articles/triumph-racing-motocross-world-championship-team-announcement.html

[hacksaw]

electric moto? lol. well if someone wanted to run stealth in the neighborhood i guess god bless them.
electric dirt bikes have been available for several years.
but it certainly won't help racing. would you pay to watch somebody shave? Norelco Racing! lol.
internal combustion rules. its the  sound and smell that fuels the soul.
E Bikes? no thanks!

Welcome to Rolling Blackout Raceway!
unfortunately todays program has been canceled by request of the Governor
due to the cloudy weather of the last week causing low grid power reserves.

[oldironnow]

https://www.webbikeworld.com/triumph-and-motocross-vision-to-reality-episode-two-the-engine/

If that has an 81mm bore, that could be a Moto3 engine.


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[m143]

https://www.cycleworld.com/motorcycle-news/triumph-250cc-motocross-bike-teaser/?fbclid=IwAR2t0wfOWk6ZxpYOaDFFOxmiTS7zljauDy6zwG-WZK7AwZ10yfXANAuIViI_aem_ATePCsc4unj2K5GbOl67HuEZsfFSdr-WuB7ONJspGZEPzKvLoJAInPV6E698opMicUc&mibextid=Zxz2cZ

[m143]

https://www.cyclenews.com/2023/10/article/triumph-racing-joins-forces-with-monster-energy-for-mx2-world-championship/?fbclid=IwAR2CQ6Ekp6AurwSpwKKVUj4X_HFsG4IvhDG_EOu3L0kGiqNsrg7eXhGIs5A

[whatarush]

I’ve looked and can’t find or overlook it, but have the signed any riders yet for Supercross?

[m143]

https://www.motoheadmag.com/walker-joins-fast-eddy-at-triumph-enduro/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR25bEDwI_62RDCMP6uvjqHfnkZhP8U67UA_omae8czYElGuS4nYVybgERw_aem_cRD4XfSVp91loEj6gMAN1g

[motogrady]

Well……it’s a mixed bag for Triumph as far as their 1st
AMA Supercross series here in the USofA.
They started with 3 guys in the 250 East Division.
They young guy Ferry quit the team after 3 of 4 rounds.
The semi veteran Savatgy, who many thought we be their guy to do well, just couldn’t get it together.
After having a terrible season he just quit the team 2/3 of the way thru. Neither even made the top 20, points wise.

Jalek Sewoll, the veteran European Motocross GP rider
they brought over, in the twilight of his career, put his Triumph 250 in the top 10 when it was all said and done,
placing 7th in the series.  

Nobody seems to be saying what happened with the 2 Americans.
Some believe they lost faith in the bikes.
They did have a few mechanical dnfs.
Ferry didn’t like the factory telling him to stay off social media. The kid apparently likes the keyboard.
Savagty, he’s got a history of being kind of inconsistent.
It’s been mentioned Triumph is running a kind of, how can one say it, workmanlike, conservative, traditional European
style team. And the Young Americans just got tired of it.

Whatever.

Seowell, in his first time in America, the old guy, on the same equipment as the 2 California riders, places 7th in the series.  

Drawn your own conclusions.

[hacksaw]

Well 7th is not podium .
As u mentioned, Americans in general don’t care for euro ways .
My conclusion is triumph racing sucks if their idea is to sell on Monday . Bcz it won’t be to Americans.

[oldironnow]

motogrady wrote

Well……

Seowell, in his first time in America, the old guy, on the same equipment as the 2 California riders, places 7th in the series.  

...

How many races did Seowell miss?
How can I find that answer?

Maybe I can add in some workmanlike points for the missed races and see if he would've moved up the board a bit.

[hacksaw]

How many races did his American teammate's miss? Or for that matter all other racers missed?
You try and interpolate that and Seowell could even get bumped down  

I shouldn’t get too much down on Triumph. I have always like them and I own a couple. But America is a big market for T. They even had an America named model.
But if this racing thing begets America or American bashing then I will add T to the pile of crap corporate companies along with HD!