BIKES FOR 2022

[Fatfatboy]

Allred wrote

 and were discounted even lower due to poor sales.

 

I guess folks prefer standard appliances.

[Fatfatboy]

Well,, they did it. A frame mounted fairing on a Softail.
The new Lowrider ST, AKA FXLRST. A bit of heritage from the FXRST.





The Gunship Gray looks tuff and appeals to me straight out of the box but I could see the Vivid Black being a real looker with some gold pinstripe added on.




I'm not sure if this will be a hit or like the original FXRST will sit on the floor waiting for a low price swooper to come in and take it for a song.

It's the first Harley in awhile that I've been interested in enough to trade in my bagger.

With it's 117 CI motor and upright seating position it sure to be a great bike for some Ozark/Arkansas trippin.

They did put a taller shock on it to keep from dragging the hard bits which may be a challenge for my stubs. Site calls it a 27" seat height which sounds appealing but it's the width that catches me on many of the newer HD's. I'll have to sit on one before I can plunk my money down.

I called my buddy at the dealer to see when he thinks one will be coming in. He didn't have an exact date but said a Gunship should be coming in soon and he would let me know.
He also mentioned that a deposit could be put down, of course, why not. Not.

He also mentioned that right now is the perfect time to be selling or trading in Road Glide. Trade in is worth at least what I paid for it and sell out right could bring me a buck or three. Sure would sweetin the deal.

[Fatfatboy]

The 2022 Launch




Other than the aforementioned FXLRST mentioned above the other changes are, of course, CVO paint schemes which are always spectacular it looks like they are taking advantage of the last years Bagger win with the new Street Glide ST and the Road Glide ST that are their new performance baggers that come with a 117 CI but with a stage 4 can be boosted up to a 131 CI ready for your next race in the Bagger Series.
Optional leathers provided by Others. At least for now.

One thing I noticed is that these new ST models are only in the black and gray color combo's. I guess if they are good sellers they will offer more options next year. Some black and orange combo would be a good scheme for these IMO.

Looks like the Pan-America is still a big hit for them beings it was the top adventure seller last year. I hope it continues.

The Sportster S looks real mean in the Metallic Green offering. That bike appeals to me but the license plate/tailight thingie needs to be replaced with something else.

[hacksaw]

ugly blacked out plastic crap.
i didnt even watch the film. ho-hum!
i dont get it. as i dont get black and gray tattoos.
your gonna spend that kind of money i want to see some color.
black motor black plastic black exhaust black wheels ass nauseum.
no chrome no class.
tupperware bikes.
 

[oldironnow]

Ho-Hum.
I didn't watch the video.
So I have an opinion.
No rearsets.
No clipons.
No Superbike.
No kneedown.

Wait... I watched a little bit of the end. There's a suggestion of more to come.
I love the way the Davidson(?) guy says "Mi-WAukey". That's how we say it.

[oldironnow]

Maybe Grubhub can pick it up for them.

I cannot stand the word 'bespoke.'

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-28/ducati-unica-to-offer-first-bespoke-motorcycle-service

[Fatfatboy]

hacksaw wrote

your gonna spend that kind of money i want to see some color.

My wife agrees with you. I showed her the Lowrider ST in grey, her first words were "you like that color?!"
I too wish they overed it in more than black and gray. I'd like a orange or blue.  
I'm sure if it's a seller for them it will have more color options next year.
They did the same thing with the M8 Heritage when it came out. Only a couple flat paint
options with a black motor. I hated it and said it needed some chrome. Now they have it in about 10 different configurations. Funny thing is the blacked out motor version actually appeals to me more now.

Something that I find odd is the CVO's, with their $40k price tag, have the same 117 motor as some of the $20k bikes do. Seems to me that the CVO's should have the 131Ci motor.

[Fatfatboy]

oldironnow wrote

Ho-Hum.
I didn't watch the video.
So I have an opinion.
No rearsets.
No clipons.
No Superbike.
No kneedown.

Wait... I watched a little bit of the end. There's a suggestion of more to come.
I love the way the Davidson(?) guy says "Mi-WAukey". That's how we say it.

Yes, more to come. I've seen rumors of 975 Sportster and supposedly the Bronx was to be launched this year. Maybe summer like they did the Sportster S.

[oldironnow]

Fatfatboy wrote

Yes, more to come. I've seen rumors of 975 Sportster and supposedly the Bronx was to be launched this year. Maybe summer like they did the Sportster S.

Summer is a good plan. Thanks!

[Fatfatboy]

oldironnow wrote

Maybe Grubhub can pick it up for them.

I cannot stand the word 'bespoke.'

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-28/ducati-unica-to-offer-first-bespoke-motorcycle-service

I finally got a chance to read this.
Designed in America built in Italy????
Sounds good.

I like the plan.
Bespoke?? Are we fitting for sport jackets?

[oldironnow]

Shipping people exactly what they want must be a good strategy.

If you could get York to cover up that Toyota 'Cement Grey' with your own PPG pick.... might have a sale today!

[oldironnow]

https://www.cycleworld.com/story/motorcycle-news/harley-davidson-announces-new-livewire-electric-motorcycle-del-mar/


The size of those bolts mounting the headstock to the battery worries me.

Maybe the headstock or bolts are designed to shear off to save the battery case in case of a moderate accident?

Maybe people stunting around on one of these will explore the failure limit?





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[Fatfatboy]

 


Something tells me that the top ear will snap off before that bolt will snap thus totaling the bike and a guy with a welder will snap up a cheap Livewire and create the first stunter Livewire and get lots of Youtube watchers, including me. I'd like to see the taming of the E power.

That article got me to poking around on the Harley Davidson and Kymco connection and how they made the Livewire it's own publicly traded company.

HD invested $100 million, Kymco invested $100 million and the special acquisition company (SPAC) AEA Bridges invested $400 million.
HD will retain 74% ownership. The investors  will own $17% and Kymco and the SPAC founders gets 4% ownership.
Seems Kymco is getting the short end of the stick for their investment but I guess they agreed to it.

The combined company is expected to have an enterprise value of $1.7 billion and post-money equity value of $2.31 billion at closing. Looks like this LVW is going to be serious.

The HD investors news flash article mentions  " KYMCO's engineering expertise, manufacturing footprint, distribution, supply chain infrastructure and global logistics capabilities."
I read this as HD profits from imports without the HD name.
I guess it was bound to happen at some point.

https://investor.harley-davidson.com/news-releases/news-release-details/livewire-become-first-publicly-traded-ev-motorcycle-company-us

I wonder if the LVW company will produce a cruiser, or at least a capable two up bike worthy of your wife instead of just a girlfriend capable pillion.

[Fatfatboy]

In my poking arounds I came across this video of the 1000 mile maintenance.



The only oil used is 12oz. gear lubricant that needs replacing at 1000 miles and then every 20,000 miles.
The coolant doesn't need changing until 50,000 miles.
These things really are low maintenance, and green. The older I get this low maintenance is very appealing to me. As an owner of many bikes the maintenance can get overwhelming at times especially since my Sundays are now dedicated to being tied to a dialysis machine that is maintaining my kidney function.

[oldironnow]

For Kymco, perhaps it's about 'buy-in' costs?
Paying up front for the future ability to build and sell other things for HD?
The price for the opportunity to partner with a great name?

I'm not getting about zero return on searching 'Kymco Tattoo'. Maybe google is just being North American centric.

I hope you get a first-gen Livewire, ffb.
It's still a good looking motorcycle, to my eyes.
The only other maintenance I see is fork service. That's on a 20K cycle on my Buell.

[Fatfatboy]

oldironnow wrote

I hope you get a first-gen Livewire, ffb.
It's still a good looking motorcycle, to my eyes.
The only other maintenance I see is fork service. That's on a 20K cycle on my Buell.

Yeah, the usual other maintenance items are still there. Stuff like brake fluids, lubing moving bits. That video does show that the refill of the gear oil can be a bit of a pain to get in it's rightful place. A filler tube going up through the frame or something similar to a tranny filler tube on a car.

I'd like to give e-bike a shot for sure. They do perk my interest and the LW is the best one from what I've seen.
There is a kid that desires my Sportster more than I do and with prices up like they are I've decided to sell it to him and since I now have to be connected to a machine three days a week I have much use for a bagger so I may be looking for something to fill a spot in the garage.

I'd like to try something I've not had yet. Guzzi's are still perking some interest. I was watching a nice Le Mans on eBay, giving it some thinkin, but it sold before I could make up my mind.
The problem is there is not many Guzzi's in my erea except at the EU dealer in the city. I'm not sure buying a new one is they way I want to go just yet.

[oldironnow]

Hearing you on the Guzzi.

A new one, and it's just a given.

But my mind always drifts to the '70s/'80s eras.

[motogrady]

Ya   A guzzi would be cool.  

[Fatfatboy]

Have any of you guys lived with a Guzzi?
If so do you got any pros or cons.

[Fatfatboy]

Although, I may need to hold on to my coins;

https://www.rideapart.com/news/569539/harley-low-rider-el-diablo/amp/