BIKES FOR 2022

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oldironnow
Fatfatboy wrote

A Sport Glide!

I thought they hired Quart.




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Fatfatboy
Quart on a bagger would be fun to watch.

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Mad4TheCrest
Thats an interesting one. I somehow think I should like it. But for some reason I can't pinpoint, I don't. Too long? Not coming to the US market? Another parallel twin from Honda?
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Fatfatboy
I like it. Of course the muffler needs to go, don’t they all.
Yeah parallel twin is so ho-hum but so is the I-4.
A V4 maybe? Or go real radical with an I-6.

Can Honda do anything radical?


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hacksaw
Horrible looking cobbled up machine.
The front “tin” is 1960’s matched , or rather grossly mismatched , with late model hipster abbreviated tail.
This is what happens when Honda tries to do something radical. Mismatch by committee .
At least it’s not electric.
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motogrady

It’s the single round headlight.  

Pick the phone up, 1962 is calling.
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Fatfatboy
Honda is particularly proud of the Hawk’s ergonomics, showing that it can accommodate riders from as short as 5-foot-1 to those 5-foot-11 or more, apparently without the need for an adjustable seat height. 

5'1" guy stretching it out.



As well as the standard Hawk 11, Honda has also revealed the first elements of a set of aftermarket components for the bike. A modified version, with silver and black paint instead of the blue and silver of the initial show model, a Moriwaki exhaust, and alternative rearset footpegs has been revealed, with more bolt-on parts promised

The muffler alone is a big improvement.




A guy photoshopped the fairing on a CBR. Looks a bit cleaner




https://www.cycleworld.com/story/motorcycle-news/honda-hawk-11-revealed-japan/

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oldironnow
That Euro5 muffler is the new real.
Would exhausts on both sides of the bike look alright?
Would two sets of Cats wind up the price?


I like the general idea, but for me a bunch of nibbley details echo the deign by committee comment.
Foremost is the short section of square tube for the frame stay. Why the change from round?  It makes the eye ask questions that can't be answered.
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Fatfatboy
Yes, dual pipes shooting out the back would of be pleasant to me eyes.
In stainless of course.

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hacksaw
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Exactly! Which in of itself is nice . But the back of the bike just doesn’t go , or flow, with it at all.
What did they put in the designers Saki?

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motogrady
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oldironnow wrote
That Euro5 muffler is the new real.
Would exhausts on both sides of the bike look alright?
Would two sets of Cats wind up the price?


I like the general idea, but for me a bunch of nibbley details echo the deign by committee comment.
Foremost is the short section of square tube for the frame stay. Why the change from round?  It makes the eye ask questions that can't be answered.
They have been doing the square engine cradle thing on their dirt bikes for awhile.

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Fatfatboy
Square pipes save lives?

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Mad4TheCrest
Just read a review for the revised 2022 KTM RC390. More track focused with a higher (32.4) seat height. Beautiful little machine (if you enjoy orange), but I am feeling wistful about some of the softer sport options we used to have, like the YZF600R and 1000R from Yamaha back before the millennium:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_YZF600R

I would love something with those ergonomics holding the sweet triple from my Daytona 765.
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Fatfatboy
^ and it only had a 31.7” seat height.

Are the roads getting worse that requires these taller seat heights?
Or is it just more lean angles are desirable?

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Mad4TheCrest
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Fatfatboy wrote
^ and it only had a 31.7” seat height.

Are the roads getting worse that requires these taller seat heights?
Or is it just more lean angles are desirable?
Party line is that it is for maximizing lean angle at the track but we know that's BS because owners take these bikes to the track less than 10% of the time on average, and even then it's a track day and not racing.

I suspect the truth is they want these bikes to be as sporty as ever but more comfortable, which means more seat to pegs room for less leg discomfort. The only way to do that without lowering the pegs is to raise the seat.  This is a great solution for long-legged riders but it pretty much challenges anyone under 5'8, and if you are under 5'6 you are SOL, unless you happen to a strong acrobat with exquisite balance. And young. And flexible.

If you point out to them they are leaving a large chunk of potential buyers out of the picture, they shrug innocently, but I think they've made the calculation to seek the high-end buyer and everyone knows that taller people are the most successful, right 😡

Do I sound bitter? 😜
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hacksaw
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Fatfatboy wrote
somehow i just dont think so.
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oldironnow
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Fatfatboy wrote
^ and it only had a 31.7” seat height.

Are the roads getting worse that requires these taller seat heights?
Or is it just more lean angles are desirable?
I think it's about body position regarding center of gravity and hanging off gymnastics. It's about the attitude of rider and machine mid-corner.

All, IMO
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oldironnow
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Fatfatboy wrote
My Sportster would want triple disc brakes.
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