KTM Woes

[hacksaw]

Of course . So it’s obvious they pushed to the limit by design. Whatever the plan was failed.
Incompetence perhaps. But as you say , the bean counters had to be aware.

[motogrady]

Fatfatboy wrote

motogrady wrote

Anyway, I’ve noticed a few threads on other sites, dirt sites, where guys are starting to second guess buying another KTM.  Not that it isn’t one of, for sure, and maybe the best 250 and 450 dirt bike out of the crate.

And that my friends, is a very serious issue for Orange.

That, I think is going to hurt them the most. They are going to have to make one heck of a financial turn around to get confidence back in the people.
With a drop in production in '25 and '26 this will leave fewer KTM's on the floors of dealers which should help get rid of the excess they have and give them a couple years to turn their finances around and give hope back to the KTM'ers that have wore out their current KTM's.
I'm curious if they will hold up their R&R for those two years as well.

They are basically borrowing $700 million from investors to help pay off a $3 billion to liabilities banks, suppliers and employees salaries. That is some brave investors.

One does have to wonder, how did they get in such a deep hole?
Expanding too fast?
Covid?
Too much paid to executives?

Interesting that the previous owner of MV is rumored to buy back 50.1% from KTM.
With MV having some of their own issues with overproduction, they currently have 2,000 leftovers sitting in a warehouse, I suspect he, Timur Sardarov, will get it back for less than he sold it for.
Sound familiar?

It seems a lot of luxury leftovers sitting around at several types of dealerships.
I'm curious how the big three in the land of the Rising Sun are doing on sales.

I think i saw KTM has 265,000 2023s sitting in warehouses.

[hacksaw]

And thousands more on dealer showrooms,
Heavily discounted. Cheaply made shit!

[motogrady]

hacksaw wrote

And thousands more on dealer showrooms,
Heavily discounted. Cheaply made shit!

Nope.
Actually the bike one needs to do the least to if a guy is really serious.  Some say the steel frame hinders them,
some say it’s better to flex a bit.  
The air forks, vs springs, again, personal preference.

Thing is, all of them are so good at this point in time,
maybe 5% use 90% of what the new stuff offers.

It’s kind of funny really.
Like seeing these new Corvettes, Mustangs and Challengers on the road.

You know, none of those guys are really
gonna run the piss out of them😄

[motogrady]

https://www.youtube.com/embed/wQ0OQFYVbWQ?feature=oembed

[hacksaw]

motogrady wrote

hacksaw wrote

And thousands more on dealer showrooms,
Heavily discounted. Cheaply made shit!

Nope.
Actually the bike one needs to do the least to if a guy is really serious.  Some say the steel frame hinders them,
some say it’s better to flex a bit.  
The air forks, vs springs, again, personal preference.

Thing is, all of them are so good at this point in time,
maybe 5% use 90% of what the new stuff offers.

It’s kind of funny really.
Like seeing these new Corvettes, Mustangs and Challengers on the road.

You know, none of those guys are really
gonna run the piss out of them😄

As far as I am concerned they are junk .
When I went to look at them I was agast at the crap that was being offered. So much plastic . Which I suppose is good if you are dumping a lot. All I wanted was a small bore curb  hopper.
But the thing that really turned me off was the tiny foot controls. This was on the dual purpose bikes. Just screamed cheap.

As far as bring a poser bike, idk. I can’t says since idk anyone whom has ktm.but I think the percentages you put up are an extreme exaggeration. I know people with those hot cars and they run the crap out of them believing.

[motogrady]

Yer right.
These would be a better setup for moto or dp.




What was I thinking.

[hacksaw]

More like what are you smoking?

[motogrady]

No. Really.

Deep ruts a guy could stay out of the bottom
and just glide along.  Hell, water crossings just gas it before hitting the river or creek and just skim across like a jet ski.  Plus, better foot support when landing a 100 foot jump! The shifter, no lifting the toe to upshift.  Ifs good enuff for road racing it’s gotta be better than what they’re using in the dirt.

Ya.   The small shifter and foot pegs, change ‘em and save KTM!