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[oldironnow]

Mad4TheCrest wrote

This just in: Ducati will replace Energica as the e-bike supplier for Moto-E beginning in 2023.

https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/racing/ducati-motoe-2023/

How much do you want to bet this means Ducati will buy Energica?

Interesting take.

Energica is a subsidiary of CRP Group. Maybe they want out, or maybe Ducati feels the need to buy in today.

https://www.crp-group.com


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[Fatfatboy]

Yamaha has confirmed that its 2022 satellite team will be former Sepang International Circuit CEO Razlan Razali’s new RNF Racing.


https://the-race.com/motogp/yamahas-new-satellite-team-has-one-year-motogp-deal/

[motogrady]

I just saw where the team that Dovi is on is hiring a young gun right out of moto3.  

[oldironnow]

Killer headline.



https://www.superbikeplanet.com/the-riders-have-never-been-the-problem-but-ok/


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[whatarush]

I was over at wsbk site and seen that Honda was using a torque sensor during winter testing to measure output torque for traction control strategies and input torque for engine braking.

https://www.worldsbk.com/en/news/2021/TECH%20DIVE%20talking%20torque%20the%20torque%20sensor%20explained

So I went searching the www for any updates and found this. Where Honda has revealed patent documents for the new fireblade. 8th generation? Or just a lightweight limited homolgated to race??

https://www-visordown-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.visordown.com/news/new-bikes/honda-mulling-radical-ducati-style-rethink-its-superbike-project?amp=&_gsa=1&_js_v=a6&usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16353160069203&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.visordown.com%2Fnews%2Fnew-bikes%2Fhonda-mulling-radical-ducati-style-rethink-its-superbike-project

[oldironnow]

Mad4TheCrest wrote

That's excellent! Not great for Dean's chances of getting any brand money for his site, but excellent.

About his assessment: it's hard to tell how good or not so good the CBRR-R is when your riders are falling off like leaves from autumn trees. On the other hand, a bike that on paper should be a top contender lavished mid pack in most of the series it contends. The mystery is why. Similar to the long mediocre WSBK career of the otherwise successful S1000RR. Why?

With the S1000RR, I think the street machine is biased to street perfection - the wheelbase is too long. If the swingarm gets shortened to increase nimbility (I hear you), the swingarm is too short and that comprises rear wheel compliance. I think that's why that bike always fades.

As to the CBR1000RR-R-SP-LMNOPQRST , I believe the Marquez/MotoGP effort has been sucking up all the engineering cash and time. Likely another nice street machine that's not designed to be the tip of the spear.  The riders have been falling off late this season due to over riding it for some results for their jobs.

All of the above, strictly IMO and absolutely Friday night conjecture.


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[oldironnow]

whatarush wrote

I was over at wsbk site and seen that Honda was using a torque sensor during winter testing to measure output torque for traction control strategies and input torque for engine braking.

https://www.worldsbk.com/en/news/2021/TECH%20DIVE%20talking%20torque%20the%20torque%20sensor%20explained

So I went searching the www for any updates and found this. Where Honda has revealed patent documents for the new fireblade. 8th generation? Or just a lightweight limited homolgated to race??

https://www-visordown-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.visordown.com/news/new-bikes/honda-mulling-radical-ducati-style-rethink-its-superbike-project?amp=&_gsa=1&_js_v=a6&usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16353160069203&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.visordown.com%2Fnews%2Fnew-bikes%2Fhonda-mulling-radical-ducati-style-rethink-its-superbike-project

Thanks for the links.

Like it says, a new bike when the current iteration is new?

What do you think of the design?

The article says the team is searching for proper chassis flex, but thgis design gives me flashbacks to that carbon-fiber non-frame Desmosedici that was unrideable.


https://www.visordown.com/news/new-bikes/honda-mulling-radical-ducati-style-rethink-its-superbike-project


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[oldironnow]

I just finished Race 1 and 2 from WSBK Argentina.

Race 2 is worth the time. Good ol' battle.

Kawasaki is aged and they celebrated it with some retro '80s/'90s livery




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[Fatfatboy]

Why does "Grasshopper" come to mind?

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[oldironnow]

Mad4TheCrest wrote

This is not encouraging news ...

https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/motogp/marc-marquez-valencia-vision-motomatters/

Oh that is really terrible.

[Fatfatboy]

Poor guy can’t catch a break.
I have to wonder just how much longer will Honda keep paying his $9 million salary?
Honda has always seemed like a company that will only put up with winner.

[Fatfatboy]

The house we rented in Florida doesn’t have a tv worthy of a GP race so I’ve not had a chance to watch Portugal yet so I have no idea how I’m doing in the league but I guess I better switch out Marquez now.

Can I post it here so I don’t have to see the race results before watching the race?

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[oldironnow]

Sea change.

https://www.superbikeplanet.com/ryder-notes-what-is-going-on/

[oldironnow]

https://www.superbikeplanet.com/new-amazon-motogp-series-will-bring-motogp-drama-racing-to-the-masses/

[Fatfatboy]

oldironnow wrote

Sea change.

https://www.superbikeplanet.com/ryder-notes-what-is-going-on/

My mind has been wondering down this same path. Seems there is a change in the guard. Rossi stepping aside is kind of a confirmation of this and with Marc being basically "invisible" for two seasons I have to wonder if his time is up.

I guess we still have Vinney out there as well as Miller and the Espargaro bros. but I notice the salaries are much less for these riders. Even Vinney was dropped down to $2 or 3 million when he switched to Aprilia.

Makes me think the factories could start saving some big cash with the younger guys with much lower salaries. Can these guys bring in the money that Rossi has?
Rossi brought in a ton of cash with the sales of yellow knickknacks alone.